Didn't see the episode but I'm chuckling thinking about it
I'm just getting into Family Guy. Gotta have something after The Simpsons got a bit rubbish.
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Family Guy mention of Jehovah's Witnesses
by pratt1 indid anyone see the family guy episode this week that had peter singing the praises of being rich.. .
one line in the song was you can stop the "jehoovahs at the gate" , they showed a witness being stopped at the gate while getting smacked in the head with a watchtower.. .
i love this show, especially stewie..
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JW article "Armageddon, Inc." in the Saturday Evening Post
by Wild_Thing inhas anybody ever seen the article in the saturday evening post called "armageddon, inc"?
i can't post it due to copyright issues, but if you have access to a library or university archives, it is definitely worth it!
it was printed in 1940, but other than the references to the "judge" it reads like it was printed yesterday!
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Interesting article, thanks for posting it
The part about the phonographs with a 'surprise' compartment for watchtowers and a drawer for sandwiches made me chuckle.
The catholic-forum site is a great resource for JW history. I'd never seen it before but it's got some good early stuff there.
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What Do You Know About Wicca?
by Anitar infor as long as i can remember, i think wicca is one of the most misunderstood of all religions.
last week, in my nature writing and literature class, a friend of mine gave a presentation of the history of wicca and an explanation of their beliefs.
basically in a nutshell, she said that wicca's believe that everything in life goes in a circle, from the life and death cycle to the calendar of holidays they celebrate.. i asked several questions, mainly trying to determine if they are a cult like the watchtower.
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Isn't "Wicca" when white people get into the hip-hop culture?
LOL. No silly, Wicca is what Chewbacca belonged to.
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In other words, the Witnesses are just renting the building; a building which they worked on, built and clean and pay to use it, yet it's not theirs. Doesn't seem fair.
LOL. Yeah but don't try and tell 'em. All the Jw's I've talked to about it think they do own the KH. I'm not sure how they think this would in practice anyway; cong disbanded or taken into another hall, hall sold off and the proceeds divvied up between all the publishers? Not likely. Churches work in the same way in that it's paid for by donations but the cong don't actually own it. The difference is that churches are often useful public buildings for community activities and secular clubs etc, whereas KH's are off limits apart from the dissemination of the orgs own variety of BS.
As for JW's with their hand in the till I've only had one experience of that. The accounts servant had been taking money from the contributions to pay for various things (he was a pretty poor chap) and I believe with the full intention of paying it back. Anyway he got demoted to publisher and that was that, which was fair enough I suppose.
JW's are an honest bunch by and large, probably cos of reading My Book Of Bible Stories and the tale of Achan and all his family getting stoned (with rocks (the big hard stoney kind)) for nicking stuff.
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Did you ever???
by Billzfan23 inthis is going to sound like a strange question - but throughout my years in the organization, i would hear reports of those coming out of the world into the truth who had problems with demons.
i mean people who would swear that satan or his demons literally caused supernatural occurrences that they were witnesses of.
does anyone have any real, honest stories of demon influence or encounter?
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Heathen - Yeah it is just my opinion and I tried not to categorically say nothing supernatural occurred. What I was trying to say is that the ghost stories I have heard through the years that have been convincing with corroborating evidence from various people have tended to unravel when you get to what actually happened.
I would love to hear a rock solid story about a supernatural happening. It would be fascinating to figure out the scientific explanations for the occurrences. I studied physics at college so I'm always interested in the fundamentals of the physical world. There's some interesting hypothesis around about how consciousness works. One is that it doesn't dwell in the physical aspect of the brain but in the electromagnetic field surrounding the body and hence could possibly survive the death of that body. Another is that the energies of the person is absorbed by the surroundings while they are alive and continue to resonate after they die. I'm open minded on a lot of these theories. However I've yet to hear a totally convincing experience that can't be explained in other terms apart from the supernatural. That's also true for organisations like CSICOP who have $million up for grabs for any scientific proof.
What I reject is the religious aspect to supernatural things; that these apparitions or occurrences are somehow for your benefit or hindrance or to be feared or worshipped. -
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CHRISTMAS CAROLS...................SATANIC ??
by vitty ini have just been listening to my new cd of a choir singing christmas carols.. ive never really listened to the words properly before, but they really are beautiful.
i know some witness who would put their hands over their ears and tra-la-la, to avoid being contaminated by these satanic songs...........................i always secretly loved them but even i would avoid listening to them.
my favorite has always been silent night.
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Well they say the devil has all the best tunes
I know I'd rather listen to a xmas carol than a kingdom dirge.
There's always a double standard with a lot of JW's cos I know some listen to opera and classical music which often incorporates hymns,carols and the like, but that's seen as art. If they're sung in a church or at xmas time then they suddenly become demonic.
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Did you ever???
by Billzfan23 inthis is going to sound like a strange question - but throughout my years in the organization, i would hear reports of those coming out of the world into the truth who had problems with demons.
i mean people who would swear that satan or his demons literally caused supernatural occurrences that they were witnesses of.
does anyone have any real, honest stories of demon influence or encounter?
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When I first left the org the question of the supernatural puzzled me. I'd heard lots of stories about ghosts, demon possession etc and while I couldn't fully believe them myself they obviously felt real to the people involved. The conclusion I came to is that the human pscyhe like to anthropomormise experiences that maybe don't have a personal aspect to them. The mind likes to think in terms of if this or that happened then someone or something must be responsible, when in fact it probably wasn't the case. Only natural I suppose and fundamentaly why lots of people have a hard time with evolution as opposed to the religious idea that someone is responsible for everything.
A couple of months back I stayed in Wales with some of my family at some old cottages in the country. My cousin, her husband and her little 4 year old kid Jessica, along with my gran were staying in a small cottage in the grounds of the larger cottage where the rest of us were staying. After 3 days I was told the story that they were leaving cos the cottage was spooked and they wouldn't stay there any longer and the owner of the holiday cottage when told had apparently said 'yes it is haunted'. They said they had all seen a girl with long black hair walk through the house and sit in a particular chair. This happened on the first night they were there. Jessica had also apparently said the day after to my gran not to sit in the chair as that's where the little girl sits.
Ok I won't go on too much with how I got to the bottom of this story but suffice to say it was different from the scary ghost story that I was told. First off it seemed strange that it happened on the first night but they didn't bring it up till 2 days later. My gran said she had seen the apparition at first but when I reminded her that the day after the alleged incident she had been surprised about Jeesica saying a little girl sat in the chair, which she would have known if she had seen it. She revised he story to having a 'funny feeling' about the place. I asked Jessica if she had seen anything and she said she hadn't but had heard her dad talking about it with her mum the night before (and therefore had made the comment the day after). Her mum wasn't in the room at the time of the apparition but came in just after her husband had allegedly seen it and said she 'felt funny' (whether this was before or after her husband had told her the tale I don't know). Her husband had been drinking and was a bit woozy that night and saw or thought he saw the ghostly incident which bore more than a resemblance to some famous horror movie characters (The Ring etc) that I know he has seen in the past.
So what started as a ghost story with everyone scared and leaving turned out to be one person feeling or seeing (in his own mind imo) a presence. Anyway they still all felt spooked so I stayed in the cottage the rest of the holiday and the rest of the family in the other house had to budge up as best they could to accomodate my cousins and granny. So I had a 3 bed cottage to myself and not a peek from any ghosts or any 'funny feelings' for the 4 days I was there.Sorry that was kind of an anti-ghost story but the topic reminded me of that holiday.
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Everybodys favorite game... Rename that Publication!
by drew sagan ini borrowed the image from one of marys posts.
haven't seen one of these in a while, though we should get one going!
and here is one for you to play with!
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"The GOD Delusion" by Richard Dawkins
by Amnesty Vendor ini just got it for reading during upcoming travels.
any comments?
(i'm sure that this is not the first thread on this topic)
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I read it about a month ago. Excellent book, although I did get feelings of deja vu at certain points cos I'd read all his previous books and some paragraphs were duplicated from those.
I'd also recommend 'The Ancestors Tale' as well by Dawkins covering evolutionary biology from present day right back through every major converging ancestor to the earliest life forms. It can get a little complicated at times but Dawkins is a good writer so the general points are easy to understand.
What always strikes me about Dawkins and scientists like him is their sense of humour and the lack of it in religionists and their sombre sometimes aggressive approach to subjects which they percieve encroaches on their patch.
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Creationism creeps into UK Schools
by Clam increationism creeps into uk schools.
newscientist.com news service 2nd december 2006 .
in the beginning there was the discovery institute in seattle, washington, the religious think tank that has backed the us "intelligent design" movement.
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an alliance of Christians who back evolution
It still puzzles me how christians reconcile evolution with the teaching of original sin and the need for a ransom sacrifice - Christ. Intellectual dishonesty if you ask me.
These new christian academies really annoy me, as do faith schools in general. It seems Reg Vardy et al can lever any religious nonsense they like into independent schools as long as they cough up a large wad of cash.
